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he understands the price of war firsthand his son was killed in afghanistan six years ago in 2010. this news of kelly's appointment added another general to his cabinet last night. that was a public event when he brought out general james mattis, trump's pick to be the secretary. the announcement with a rally in north carolina and now just been the last hour, nbc news confirmed the plan to announce general scott pruitt as the choice to head the agency, the epa. pruitt is a controversial choice when it comes to activists. he is a notable foe of epa regulations imposed by the obama administration and as the attorney general he sued the epa and tried to block a clean power plant to save coal mining jobs.
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they are sounding the alarm about his appointment that comes two days after al gore met with trump to discuss climate change. that was a meeting that raised hopes that trump may moderate his views as president. two days later this announcement with pruitt. not going-over well with climate activists. a few seats still open in the trump administration and new polling shows mixed reviews about his selections so far. 51% of americans say they approve of the team that trump is putting together for context behind where barack obama was when he was coming into office at the same point in 2008. about three of four approve and good news for trump also in the polling now. his favorable rating is up to 50% nationally. you can see that's not a resounding endorsement, but
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progress for progress from the height of the campaign back then he was down at 33%. that was back in august. he climbed 17 points since then. that's what a victory in a presidential election will do for you. he is expecting to fill out the final spots in his administration over the next two weeks. some answers on the position we have been waiting for. the biggest one out there. secretary of state. expecting that within the next several days. we want to bring in katie turr who is outside trump tower. pruitt, the oklahoma ag. this is an interesting one. al gore meeting with trump and gore emerged from that meeting saying it was interesting and maybe there had been progress. this pending appointment suggests no change on climate change. >> this would not make al gore
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happy. the meeting was starred by donald trump's daughter ivanka, between ivanka and al gore. he said he was surprised to be meeting the president-elect at that time and he came out feeling good about the meeting, but scott pruitt is not someone who anyone on the side of science would have chosen. he has been actively against the epa saying it had an activist agenda and dewriting climate scientists in general. saying it should be shunned by the american public. he sued the epa on behalf of energy companies. trump has not been a believer in regulations himself. he has been critical on the campaign trail saying that the united states should get rid of
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it. he spoke in montana and promising to end regulations and help boost the business. at that point he had been saying he promised to follow-through with that. it's not something on any climate change will be trumpeting as a good pick and will need push back in the confirmation hearings. as you mentioned, retired general john kelly announced or sources tell us will be the announcement pick for homeland security. you mentioned that his son was killed in afghanistan and he knows the cost of war. it is notable that this is the third general that donald trump picked for his cabinet. this means that somebody like david petraeus is not as likely because adding another general
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won't be as easy to do. so far it is plugging away and there are a number of meetings with the donald trump team. no announcement of secretary of state. that could come next week. >> katie turr outside trump tower with the latest. trump meanwhile trying to burnish his image as a deal maker this week, taking to twitter to take a hard line stance with major companies, causing controversy. the companies that trump went after saw big moves on the stock market based, apparently, on his tweets. here's an example for you. this was less than an hour before the marks opened. trump tweeted he might cancel a $4 billion contract with boeing and said the costs are out of control. take a look at this. this is what happens to boeing stock after that tweet. you see it went down. by the end of the day, it did recover, but big money was lost
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for boeing temporarily for the shareholders early in the day based on one tweet from the president-elect. later in the day, there was praise for a major telecom company and he created 50,000 new jobs for americas is what he said on twitter. the majority stakeholder in sprint. look at what happened to sprint stock after what happened on twitter. making a measurable impact on business and bottom lines. this is not escaping trump's notic notice. >> he had about 35 million on twitter and facebook combined. he sees an opportunity to
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communicate by cutting through the silence through social media platforms. he affected the stock market and he did it twice. >> today another potential development in a closed door meeting, the president-elect said apple could be his next target. he preferred they returned the operations back to the united states. to talk more, i want to bring in marcia blackburn and a vice chair and you are a conservative republican. the president-elect actively calling out individual companies and clearly having an effect with the stock performance. do you think that's appropriate and a positive step and is it worrying you?
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>> it shows the american people are paying attention. that's a good thing. they are listening to what he said. they are engaged and there is a level of enthusiasm. we have not seen it in many years in this country. they are going to figure out or trying to figure out what track he is going to travel as president. they are watching very closely. they are watching what he is saying on social media. it appears they are having an impact and we will see how ings have progressed. >> from a free market standpoint, the idea that if a president of the united states can move with a tweet or with a public comment and saying something that has the power to affect the bottom line for a company so directly and dramatically, does that amount
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to interference. >> that's a worthy question. what you have to do is say this is snag we haven't seen. the utilization of social media in these ways and what we will need to do is see what happens as we move forward in this transition period. he is holding meetings and making decisions and as you have seen, the impact it had with carrier and the transitions it had with boeing and the air force one contract. it's a good thing to bring transparency tow the process. let's wait and see. >> i want to ask you about one
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of donald trump guests saying that the topic of immigration came up and the status of the children. the children of those who came to the country illegally. the current president barack obama offered protection with this action. daka it is called. trump promised to do away with it. he said i want dreamers for our children also. we will work something out on a humanitarian basis. we are going to work something out that makes people happy and proud, but that's a tough situation. >> i'm curious what you would be comfortable with. do you think there is something that can be worked out that continue to afford the protections to these children that donald trump is talking about who are protected by the obama administration's actions. >> one of the things that is of
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concern to us, daka program was put in place by executive order. it is not something that congress put in place. likewise the office of refugee resettlement is an agency that we have had under investigation for a couple of years. the child abuse that is taking place and the lack of vetting for the children who come in and not knowing for sure who they are released to. whether they are involved in. there is not a way to vet these individuals many times. that has to be cleaned up. you are exactly right about that. now, exactly what mr. trump is going to pursue as an answer to that, zone. i know this. orr is an agency of health and human services and it deserves to have investigations and oversight in people that abused
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these children and they need to be fire and prosecuted and dealt with. i know that the daka program being an executive order would be better to recall that and to be certain that congress has the appropriate oversight over this process. we have spent a lot of time and energy the past few years trying to get the office of refugee resettlement to file the appropriate reports. to bring transparency tow this agency. i think everybody involved in this whether they are for the daka program or want to see it halted or see it repositioned, they know that the orr has to have -- you need to have the right oversight and deal the right penalties to people who have abused these children. >> congressman marcia blackburn as part of the trump transition team. >> thank you. >> not far from where marcia blackburn is, the msnbc
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contributor, what i thought was going to happen here, we were going to show a shot of the senate floor and bring you in because taking place right now, we will get right back. you are looking this was a member of the senate and he has been part of the senate and there is a tribute. mitch mcconnell has spoken and we turn to chris. i was going to ask you and joe biden has been making a lot of noise about what's next for him. he has been in public life since 1969. this will be the first time since then he is out of elected office.
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he is not done. what do you think is next? >> i thought his adacknowledgement. he was not aware and you and i both know the best predictor is if they have run for president in the past. this is not an illness that you lose wanting to run for president. that is true for bide in having been so close to it. he looks at it and said i'm in good health and i'm sure he believes he would have won this election had he run and had circumstances been different with the death of his son, beau. he is not at the point -- i take him at he doesn't see it happening, but he doesn't rule it out. in two years's time or before
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when the race begins, maybe no one has stepped forward and it is joe biden's race. you don't do well by yourself when you close doors you don't need to close. >> on the days he wouldn't run and certainly he was not running in a lot of encouragement with the top levels to get into that race. they wanted to get behind hillary clinton. i sense that wait a minute, maybe we picked the wrong candidate. >> democrats in 2014 put every egg they had in the hillary clinton basket. in the summer of 2015 when biden was taking a look at it ever the death of his son in may. each people who might have been for him and would have preferred in an even up contest were
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already so far down the road of gamble made on her. that decision had been made a year or more prior and i do think this is always the case when a candidate loses, that has been anointed. there is an element of buyer's remorse and he is the clear beneficiary of that. >> we willalk more about this later. the senator from delaware will join us to talk about joe biden. the fix from the washington post. meanwhile, also happening this afternoon, witnesses have begun taking the stand in the trial of dylan roof, charged with killing nine people at a black church in south carolina. an update on the emotional testimony for a woman who was inside the room when roof opened fire. a somber anniversary, one of the
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darkest days in american history. the japanese launched the surprise attack on pearl harbor. senator john mccain delivered an address at the world war ii memorial earlier today. >> we were defeated by the enemy by a moment does not diminish the mobility of the sacrifices made by americans that day for the sake of duty, honor, and country. >> coming up, we will go live to hawaii. where witnesses and survivors are paying tribute to the lives lost that day. world ugly and messy. they are the natural born enemy of the way things are. yes, ideas are scary, and messy and fragile.
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trump used his account to applaud companies like soft bank and carrier and used it to guilty into fights with "saturday night live" and hamilton. he cane provocative is one word to describe his use of the account. a new poll from politico and morning consul.
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56% of americans say he uses the account too much. at politico and nial, let me ask you about that. the final two weeks of the campaign, his team seemed to get control of his twitter account. he was not tweeting at all and seemed to be running a more disciplined campaign. it took about 36 hours to return to his old habits. no sign this will let up when he is sworn in. >> none whatsoever. he loves his twitter and he was making a clear case in defense of it. there are problems when people talk here in washington and they worry he will say something that will blow up some carefully balanced issue. in fairness to donald trump, as a matter of political strategy, i think his twitter use during the campaign was effective.
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someone said we look back on president kennedy as the first president who mastered television and president obama's 2008 campaign as the first campaign that was great with data. donald trump in a way is the first president-elect to really master twitter. >> it strikes me that we had so many discussions about how does the media cover donald trump with twitter, but the biggest challenge is with his allies and the people out there vouching for him every day and trying to speak for him like kellyanne conway. every time he puts something out there where the facts are in question in terms of what he is saying. it forces the people in position of having to answer for him and what he just put out there. i imagine that can be a difficult thing sometimes. >> yeah, i mean now that's what they are paid to do. i think trump certainly is not the first politician to use
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twitter, but he uses it much more and for greater variety of subjects. in a different tone than we have seen others do. by the same token, his aides are not the first to have to go out and defend crazy statements by politicians. they just have to do it for a greater variety and on a greater number of subjects than we have seen previously. what nial said is right. he used twitter skillfully to go over the heads of and around the traditional filters that politicians have to work through. >> let's talk about the news coming out of the transition. a couple more announcements being made and it looks like the oklahoma's scott pruitt, climate activists don't like that pick. long serving governor will be the ambassador to china.
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secretary of state is the big question that is left on the board. what can we learn from today's announcements about the directions the administration is going. >> scott pruitt is a very conservative choice by anyone's standards, not just in terms of environmentally record, but the record on social issues and things like abortion, same-sex marriage, very conservative. he has not previously of course sued the agency that he is about to lead. that says it all in terms of where the appointment is coming from and something that will please people who are very skeptical of the climate change lobby as they see it. as i think katie turr mentioned, it won't please al gore who was a recent visitor to trump tower. >> in the last few minutes we learned that donald trump's pick to lead the small business administration will be linda mcmahon.
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she has run for office several times in connecticut for the senate and for governor. she is the wife of vince mcmahon, the head of wwe, the professional wrestling circuit. active in republican politics the last decade or so. did the administration that is taking shape here is further by linda mcmahon's appointment. a lot of conservatives who were expe skeptical of donald trump have to be happy with the administration. >> you are hearing people not only relieved, but happy right now with a trump administration overall being less trump-like than they anticipated and donald trump defining himself more as a -- he defined himself more as a governor or somebody who governs rather than as a campaigner.
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people, republicans and conservatives are liking what they see. another pick that trump has not formal formally, announced is general john kelly. they served four decades in the military and said he would serve in either administration. i thought it was quite interesting that some of trump's most divicive comments on the campaign trail were about immigration and border security and he chose a noncontroversial person to lead his department of homeland security and will be responsible for implementing the plans which is surprising and remarkable. >> eliana johnson and nial standish. thank you. >> thank you. >> remembering pearl harbor. a look at how the nation is remembering the attack on our soil 75 years ago today. ♪
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time for a check of the headlines at the half hour. president-elect donald trump announcing three more members of his administration. retired marine general john kelly to be the homeland security secretary. scott pruitt to run the environmental protection agency. the ambassador to china: and rahm emmanuel and pat mccroriy visited trump tower for meetings with the president-elect. also a short time ago, he was announcing that he will nominate linda mcmahon to head the small business administration. the person of the year. trumping the "today" show oods a great honor to be selected, but he did not dwight america in the election. the fight over the michigan recount was requested by green
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party candidate jill stein one day after the court of appeals ends the recount in the state. keith ellison will resign his seat if he is elected to be the next chair of the democratic national committee. he came to the commission after hearing from voting members. they are searching for the warehouse fire and those killed up to 36 in that tragedy. the fire started on the first floor with smoke and flame trapping people on the second floor. earlier they had finished searching the building. authorities in tennessee announcing that two juveniles have been arrest and charged for the role in starting the recent wildfires in the great smokey mountains. at least 14 people have been killed and at least 1,000 buildings were damaged or
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destroyed. now to south carolina. that is where testimony is under way in the federal trial for the man charged with carrying out a shooting at a black church in charleston last year. dylan is being tried on hate crimes, firearms and obstruction of religion charges. he killed people in a bible study class because he wanted to start a race war. he could face the death penalty if convicted and faces a separate state trial o murder changes. we go now from charleston with the latest. the story that horrified the country when it first broke a year and a half ago. what can you tell us? >> steve, a dramatic emotional first day here in u.s. federal court. the first witness was felicia sanders. she is one of five people who survived that horrific church shooting at t emmanuel ame
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church and described what it was like for her aunt to be shot to death who she called her best friend and to lose her son that night and she got very emotional. tears were rolling down her cheeks. i want to quote what she said to jurors. she said i watched my son take his last breath. i saw my son come into this world and leave this world. at that point after she said that, she broke down and took a little recess to compose herself and when she got back into the courtroom, she ended her testimony by saying dylan roof belonged to what she called, the pits of hell. mostly first responders and charleston police officers and one officer in particular, sergeant niece who was wearing a body cam when he arrived on the scene. that body cam footage, the audio
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played in court here today. we learned the make up of the jury here. the 12 jurors and the six alternates are mostly white. 66.67% white and mostly women, 72% female. the federal trial is comprised of two faces, if you will. the first is the guilt or innocence phase. if roof is found guilty, he will move on to sentencing when it will be determined if he will get the death penalty. he is representing himself in that second sentencing phase of the trial. steve? >> marianna is in charleston, south carolina. now to hawaii where thousands of people are gathered marking 75 years since one of the worst attacks on u.s. soil.
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the uss sounding whistle at 7:55 a.m. hawaii time when the japanese aircraft began the surprise attack on pearl harbor on december seventh, 1941. that led to america's involvement in world war ii. some of the few remaining survivors of that day taking part in ceremonies honoring the 2400 service members who made the ultimate sacrifice that day. miguel is there for us. miguel, 75 years, but i imagine still an awful lot of emotion there today. >> yes, steve. these are always moving tributes. these are especially important for those survivors that remain here and continue to come back here to honolulu every year for this pleasure after versary. many are in their 90s and some are as old as 104 who come here every day not just to remember that day 75 years ago, but all
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of the lives lost here as they battled and talked to us about their memories from 75 years ago and paint such vivid important pictures. they describe the mens swarming into the area and dropping bombs and discussed their fight. what is most important to them is the history of what happened here. some of them do have concerns that over the next years here, many will forget the attack here in pearl harbor. they come here and they say not only to share stories, but to remember and make sure the country remembers. their stories are moving and many of the men and women that are paying tribute across the country that come here say if they have one wish here, so many people remember those lives that were lost here 75 years ago. >> miguel is out there in pearl harbor. thanks for that. for more on the 75th anniversary, we go to the presidential historian and
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retired army colonel and the medal of honor recipient. thanks to you for joining us. let me start with you. i am thinking about this today. there are very few days in history i can think of that changed everything in this country. maybe 9/11 and pearl harbor. probably the only two in the last 100 years. >> said perfectly, steve. one reason why it's good that we have witnesses to what it was like, 1941, this country seemed as beleaguered as it could get. the surprise attack by this hugely threatening japanese empire and a couple days later, we were at war with nazi germany. there was a very great sense that we might be enveloped and live in a world that was hostile to the united states that we americans may not survive. one thing that is great about this is that every time you hear politicians and others saying we
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are facing some of the biggest dangers we ever have in american history, it's important to remember that moment 75 years ago. we not only faced this, but conquered it and within four years we had won. >> what that day meant in terms of plunging the united states into world war ii. the greatest generation. this is the last time you had a mass mobilization on that scale. they found a way to serve in the war if they were of service age. >> a lot of people forget we had to be dragged kicking and screaming into the war. we knew it was coming, but we tried to be out of it. it wasn't until this attack and when hitler declared war on the united states which was a big mistake. we went into a war that europe
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had been going on for over two years and asia had been going on for more than a decade. we didn't want to fight, but in the end we had to. it was because of this attack. >> one thing i noticed talking to people of the world war ii generation, people who served, it struck me that it seemed like there was a bond formed. they may not know each other, but guys would meet each other and there was a connection that bound that generation together. >> the whole country was bound together. i grew up after the war and my father served in the south pacific during the second world war in the army. every household that made a contribution to the war effort, i had friend who is had fathers with pieces missing and friends who didn't have fathers at all. the whole country had gone through the war together.
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it's difficult to find that kind of bond anymore. >> people who maybe don't remember you can remember the sauce of unity that each one of the events created? >> sadly it shows how different our political culture is now. this country was almost totally divided up to the eve of pearl harbor. do we get involved in the war or not? the moment that pearl harbor happened except for a tiny group of people this country as everyone is saying was united. after 9/11, you can remember people saying that this catastrophy in new york and the other places was so great, you will see an end to bickering in congress and political differences and we did see that and it lasted a couple of weeks. >> it was a big difference. 60 years between the two events and 75 years ago today, this
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"access hollywood" tape. we are not talking about michael jordan's press coverage. after the campaign, the press was out to get me. some of the trump's critics, the press was not hard enough on donald trump. we have numbers to put on the question of press coverage. 23 is the most important number. they did a study of the news coverage and the press coverage of the campaign. in the general election, the clinton versus trump phase, 23% of the coverage of trump they said could be considered positive. 77% could be considered negative. to put this in perspective, compare it to hillary clinton. 36% of the general election coverage was positive and 64%
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was negative. this is a thing that did change overtime. if you look at the history of the trump candidacy. it wasn't just trump. if you look at the entire primary process and the candidate who got the best coverage was bernie sanders. trump, ted cruz got 49% positive and hillary clinton was almost equal to that at 47%. rubio is lagging a bit. trump got better coverage earlier than later, but so did the other candidates. the coverage of trump and clinton down the stretch. 23% positive coverage according to the center for donald trump in the home stretch of the a
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rare moment of bipartisanship in the senate and republicans and democrats are paying tribute to joe biden. nearly five decades of service in the chamber. >> you have been a real friend. you have been a trusted partner and it has been an honor to serve with you. we are all going to miss you. godspeed. >> mitch mcconnell. you don't hear him talking about democrats that way too often. joe biden was in the senate for 36 years and the president of the senate for the last years. very emotional for him and hinting he may not be done even though he is stepping down as vice president. more of those remarks, next.
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>> the greatest honor of my life is to serve in the seat you held for 36 years. not just literally this this seat, but the seat on the amtrak train from wilmington every morning. >> there is a reason to get joe on the phone his short hand is time to get serious in my office. >> steven spielberg in hollywood, you should be listening. joe biden's life is the stuff for which movies are made. >> joe biden being made on the floor of the united states senate. when he leaves office in january, it will be the first
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time since 1969, 48 years, the first time that joe biden will not be in elected office. he started in 1969 as a councilman in newcastle county, delaware and then to the u.s. senate and the vice presidency and now 48 years later, he will be leaving office in january. biden dropping hint says he may not be ready to leave the public eye. he is causing all sorts of commotion with comments and seems to be having fun with it, but also he seems to be trying to make a statement that wants to stay relevant. joe biden turns 74 years old. he would be 78 in 2020. it might be empty then and who knows, there might be an opening for somebody like joe biden, but it may not just be the race for president in 2020.
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if you are looking for biden to keep a role in public life. this is the senior senator, bill nelson. up for reelection in 2018. he is not yet committed to seeking another term. he will turn 70 years old and he may be retiring and some talk if he does retire, joe biden might run for the u.s. senate in 2018 from delaware. that would not be an unprecedented move. in 1970 he ran for the united states senate and returned becoming vice president. he went back and served again. it would not be unprecedented and there is at least chatter right now that if he doesn't run for reelection in 2o 18, joe biden may run for the senate
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again. he is 74 years old and making it clear in his public comments he has no interest in fading into the sunset yet. that will do it for this hour. mtp daily starts right now. >> if it's wednesday, donald trump pushes the envelope of hour. how far can he go? >> how donald trump is testing the limits of his new powers. plus, surprise selections. >> i know more about isis than the generals do, believe me. >> first flynn, then mattis and trump adds a third general. remembering the attack on pearl harbor. 75 years ago today. >> december 7, 1941, a date that will live in infamy. >> the deadly d


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